Thanks all, I hope I can be successful in this endeavor. Are there any “apostate” sites that are geared towards kids? I think there is a bit of a gap in our outreach there. Any parents willing to join me in this effort?
Anony Mous
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Question for parents with a believing co-parent
by Anony Mous inmy daughter is being raised in a pimi household and spends a significant time with me in a pomo household.
i don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a jw from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.. she is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-jw-things.
her mother forbids star wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so i’ve compromised for archery.. what do parents of teenagers do?
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Anony Mous
@redvip: don’t expect America to invade Afghanistan again. The Chinese already started to take over the country in forms of military and infrastructure. This President is weak, expect Taiwan to fall next, war in India and Africa as China is funding Pakistan and various African terrorist groups.
We are on the precipice of a Third World War, not nuclear but a war between third world countries over who gets to reign over the vast amounts of resources that the West needs to do so-called green things. Europe will get pulled in because China and Russia will cut off their energy and food supplies as they’ve been dependent, eventually after the Democrats leave office (doubtful Biden survives that long, but Harris may) then the US will have to clean it all up again.
Our carbon-free energy will be soaked in blood. And then within 50 years when we realize that it’s not sustainable, we will have created a most unstable world, when the answer was laying under our feet all along. Biden just committed an Archduke Ferdinand-level mistake all because he doesn’t understand foreign policy and his base hated everything Trump did for world peace.
Biden needs to go, he is objectively the worst president in history.
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If all GB members died at once?
by Jofi_Wofo ini don't suppose anyone knows for sure, but do we have any kind of hint of what would happen if all of the governing body members died at the same time- such that nobody was left to appoint successors?
in lieu of any solid evidence, i'd also be interested in hearing some speculation based on what we already know about the organizational structure.. it would certainly throw a wrench in either the teaching that the faithful and discreet slave will survive into the great tribulation and/or the implied doctrine that the the gb succession arrangement is justifiable biblically.
let me firmly disclaim any implication that i am encouraging violence or wishing death on the governing body.
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Anony Mous
Well, it would just go down to the next person in command of the corporation. Nothing special really, so typically you have the owners, the board members, the president, the secretary and the treasurer.
In cases where you need to elect a new board, either the members or officers would do so (depending on the language in the bylaws filed during incorporation).
So most likely an attorney for the corporation would look at the bylaws, look who is responsible to make these decisions and/or call for a vote from the membership. Given the membership of the corporation is presumably a select group at Bethel (I’ve heard there are ~500 shareholders), that would be whom does the election, not the members of congregations which are their own legal entities.
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Why is there a large cat in this picture?
by slimboyfat ini wonder if anyone can explain this.
ezekiel 34:25 says .
and i will make a covenant of peace with them, and i will rid the land of vicious wild beasts, so that they may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the forests.. the land is said to be rid of vicious wild beasts, so why does the watchtower picture in the new pure worship book show a large predatory cat on the tree in this picture?
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Anony Mous
To me it looks like the panther is about to eat her.
That being said, if these animals are truly vegetarian, they would biologically no longer be nocturnal, a large animal would not find enough food at night and need daylight to discriminate between edible and inedible vegetation. Also they would be morphologically different, large animals with huge energy budgets need huge storage and lots of food processing, think cows. Humans and cats as vegetarians would have to be so different to survive.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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The root cause for both Vietnam and this disaster is the same: the incoming president has no willpower to maintain the status quo and wants to pull out because he needs the funds.
It’s the same thing McNamara did for JFK and LBJ in Vietnam, just let planes get shot down on purpose and don’t fight back where it is necessary, you wear down the morale of your troops and your country so it’s easier to pull the plug. You leave the locals to die, because they’re not worth anything in your plan because you have better things to do at home with that budget that you just saved.
And LBJ through these boondoggles was able to renegotiate with Congress for a $100B plan to start a “War on Poverty” and a jobs plan and a ton of social re-engineering policy while Vietnam fell under the rule of Pol Pot and millions died while the Soviets reaped the benefits by going immediately into various trade agreements. Here too, Biden will make the case that we save a few million and he can use that for making his Green New Deal or whatever other issue in a $10T spending plan.
What do we see today in Afghanistan: hundreds of women that got educated are being locked up and publicly executed. In the mean time China is reaching out to the Taliban for agreements on the building of roads in exchange for mining rights. The Chinese Communists and the American Left (but I repeat myself) are entirely transactional in this thing, they don’t give a flying fuck about the people, the sacrifices, the stability of the region, Europe, Israel. They got their money, saved a line item on the budget, they’re out, what they think their voting base is, is happy.
Off course Biden knew this was going to happen, Obama did the same, Clinton did the same, LBJ did the same. Everytime the same results whether it’s Pol Pot under LBJ or the Iranian hostage crisis under Carter or legitimizing the PLO under Clinton, this is all done on purpose to keep funding eternal social programs at home and keep a puppet at hand abroad for whenever it is politically expedient to take back out and manufacture a crisis. Perpetual crisis keeps people afraid, keeps people easy to manipulate.
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Anony Mous
If that case count is correct, and the total number is 0.3%, given JW makes up less than 0.1% of the population that means child abuse is at least three times as prevalent amongst JW compared to a “normal” distribution of child molesters in the world.
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Question for parents with a believing co-parent
by Anony Mous inmy daughter is being raised in a pimi household and spends a significant time with me in a pomo household.
i don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a jw from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.. she is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-jw-things.
her mother forbids star wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so i’ve compromised for archery.. what do parents of teenagers do?
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@truth_b_known: thanks for that advice, but we already have the situation arranged as such that she is free to do what she wants with me, at least on paper, and I already have primary custody on healthcare decisions. I highly doubt I can get primary custody currently.
The problem is that a lot of the rules are bleeding into her decision making at my house, which I don’t want to order her to do things like celebrate a birthday, or force her to participate in activities, but I see she wants to do it but she feels bad saying yes, because she doesn’t want to upset her JW family.
Basically I would like to help her to “fade”, at this point she literally doesn’t care about the details of the religious, but without being disruptive to her relationship with her family or without being deceptive.
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Question for parents with a believing co-parent
by Anony Mous inmy daughter is being raised in a pimi household and spends a significant time with me in a pomo household.
i don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a jw from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.. she is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-jw-things.
her mother forbids star wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so i’ve compromised for archery.. what do parents of teenagers do?
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Anony Mous
My daughter is being raised in a PIMI household and spends a significant time with me in a POMO household. I don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a JW from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.
She is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-JW-things. Her mother forbids Star Wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so I’ve compromised for archery.
What do parents of teenagers do? I have full legal right to do whatever I want with her as far as believes and healthcare according to the custody papers, so I won’t lose anything there. I want to ease her into the things she wants to do, on the other hand I don’t always want to compromise and choose a middle road. I also don’t want her to feel bad that she’s feeling like she has to hide things from her other family. I’ve tried to discuss “the deeper things” about the JW, but these days it seems they don’t teach all that much substance anymore, so there is little to latch onto since there is no logical buildup, just a statement of facts.
Anyone navigate these waters before? It’s an entirely different experience from what I had as a child. What would you have liked as a child?
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Anony Mous
@frozen: mRNA vaccines have been tested for nearly 3 decades, none have passed FDA approval. Having one that works would be a goldmine for companies that invested the last 50 years in mRNA research. Hence why we now have “special” vaccines when they could’ve just made regular century-old egg-based vaccines, they saw an opportunity and went for it.
The drawbacks of mRNA treatment is also its strength. You can target specific viruses down to the variant, basically designer drugs that would be great for cancer treatment, you can target wayward cells that are very specific without making your body go completely autoimmune. But it means however in vaccines, as we now learned, that you have virtually no resistance against fast mutations and variants.
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Anony Mous
@david no your employer does not have the right to fire you for not participating in their religious practices. The only concern of your employer should be whether you do your job, in the US, you cannot discriminate against perceived, past or future disability or health condition. Otherwise your employer could mandate that all women get abortions, or that all men that work with children have their genitals removed. If it’s safety that you want, then remove yourself from society altogether.
Although, I do think stores should have the right to mandate things on their property, there are laws that say they cannot discriminate on a variety of reasons. If you want to mandate that stores service gays and transgender, they should be mandated to service those that aren’t woke.